Family tree

• Mum and Dad, and their descendants
• 4 grandparents, and their descendants
• 8 great-grandparents, and some of their descendants
• 16 great-great-grandparents, and some of their descendants
• 32 great-great-great-grandparents, and some of their descendants
• A few great-great-great-great-grandparents, some of their descendants, and some of their ancestors.

A separate page shows a summary family tree, For other information, see the links on the family-tree home page.

Within each section below, information is given about each of our ancestors in that generation (i.e. 2, 4, 8, 16 and 32 of them respectively). Information about previous generations is included in the last section.

Within a given generation, ancestors (in bold type) are listed in the order: father of father..., mother of father..., father of mother..., mother of mother... etc. Offspring are listed by age, oldest first.

The tree is based mainly on information from:

• Birth, marriage and death certificates
• The 1841-1901 census returns
• Parish records, wills

Each link in the tree, between a given ancestor X and his/her parents A = B, is deduced on the basis of matches between things known about X, e.g.

• Name, date and place of birth of child
• Names of parents
• Street address, or village where living
• Profession (sometimes the same as the father's profession)

As of January 2009, the identities of all 4 pairs of great-grandparents is secure. There's uncertainty about only one of the 8 pairs of great-great-grandparents: Thomas James = Mary Burton ('probable'). Of the 16 pairs of great-great-great-grandparents, 3 are unknown (surnames James, Tierney, Robinson) and 3 are only 'probable' or less certain (surnames Hallam, Burton and Strain).

The censuses (entries were sought for each direct ancestor in each census 1841-1891) typically give for each member of a household at a given address the name, age, marital status, relation to head of household, occupation and place of birth. The handwritten census entries are transcribed here as they appear, with no correction for any apparent spelling mistakes. Illegible entries are marked '?' if uncertain, and '??' if unguessable (correct spelling may later become clear after referring to other sources of information).

Note that in the 1841 census, ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5.

Abbreviations:

acc = according to
B = Belinda
b, d = born, died
bap = baptised
C = Chris
D = Dad
M = Mum
MD = Margaret Davies 
RC = Robert Chapple
TT = 'Thacker Towers' webpage
? = doubtful; ?? = very doubtful (or unguessable transcipt from
a record)
xxxx = unknown first name or last name (or both)
[] = editorial comments (i.e. not information from the original
source; or indicates the source which reported a given piece 
of documentary evidence)
'=' = married to (or partner of)

Typographical conventions:
Large font = family tree, as deduced from source informtion, with names of direct ancestors in bold font.
Small font = source information (from censuses etc.).

The words '(see above)' after the name of a direct ancestor indicates that information about him/her is given under his/her entry in the previous section (i.e. one generation later in time).

Click on a name or a portrait to explore the interlinked pages of family portraits [but don't expect too much - there are a few bugs, and the quality of some of the images needs improving].

The information in the tree was collected with the help of Belinda, Mum and Dad.

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Mum and Dad, and their descendants

Roger Benn = Gillian Strain

• Roger Benn (b Cheadle Hulme) = Gillian Strain (b West Bridgford), children:
  • Chris = (1989) Esmeralda Darias, children:
    • Paul
  • Carol = (1984) Neil Gibson, children:
    • Shona
    • Douglas
    • David (twin)
    • Ian (twin)
  • Stephen (twin) = Sue Siddall, children:
    • Joseph
    = Olivia Piekarski, children:
    • Lucia
    • Charlie
    = ??, children:
    • Edward
  • Belinda (twin) = Dave Williams, children:
    • Joe

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4 grandparents, and their descendants

Frederick Benn = Mary Tierney	Arthur Strain = Dorothea Robinson

• Frederick Benn, engineers' draughtsman (b Loughborough 1897, d 30/9/1968) = (1925) Mary Tierney, nurse (b Levenshulme 1895, d 1951), children:
  • Arthur John (b Hazel Grove 9/2/1926, d Framilode 4/4/1989) = (1958) Ann B Leatherbarrow (22/10/1935 - 4/5/2004), children:
    • Kevin = Hazel Wheeler, children:
      • Philippa (Pippa)
      • James
    • Karen A = (1990) Alan Hawkins, children:
      • Emma
      • Sophie Rose
    • Paul = Paula, children:
      • Jonathon
      • Eleanor
  • Margaret Mary (b Cheadle 1927, d 2004) = (1956) Frank W. Gillott, children:
    • Andrew = (1986) Chela xxxx, children
      • Andrew
      • Caroline
    • Katherine = (1993) Guy Berwick, children:
      • Katrina
      • Stephanie
  • Frederick Roger (see above)
  • David Noel = (1957) Gillian C Payne, children:
    • Jonathon = (1986) Karen J Mitchell, children:
      • Joanna Leane
      • Michela Louise

  Birth certificate: Frederick Benn was born 27 Sep 1897, at 37 Broad St, Loughborough. His parents were Arthur Benn (joiner, journeyman) and Elizabeth James. Marriage certificate: Frederick Benn (106 Moorfield Rd) and Mary Tierney (Oak House, Buxton Rd) married 23 Feb 1925 at the parish church of St George, Stockport.

• Arthur Strain, insurance clerk, agent (b Birmingham 1903, d 1972) = (14 Sep 1930, Birmingham) Dorothea Robinson, teacher (b Handsworth 1900, d 1956), children:
  • Gillian (see above)
  • Peter = Sue, children:
    • Emma = Jon, children:
      • Henry
      • Benjamin
    • Matthew= Maki
      • Jay

  Birth cerificate: Arthur William Strain was b 31 Jul 1903 [looks like 1902 but probably isn't] at 55 Ingleby St, Birmingham. His parents were Alfred Joseph Strain (gold cutter) and Emily Came. Birth certificate: Dorothea Alys Robinson was born 24 Oct 1900 (this is from a certificate of registration of birth, not from a full birth certificate). Marriage certificate: Arthur William Strain (27, of 51 Holiday Rd, Handsworth) and Dorothea Alys Robinson (29, of 180a Lozells Rd) married 14 Sep 1930 at St Michael, Handsworth, Staffs. Their fathers were Alfred Joseph Strain (jeweller) and Thomas Robinson (boot retailer).

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Arthur Benn = Elizabeth James	James Tierney = Eliza Powell
Alfred Strain = Emily Came	Thomas Robinson = Sarah York

• Arthur Benn, joiner and builder (b Leicester 1859 - ) = (10/4/1883, Loughborough) Elizabeth M. James (b Leicester 1862, d 16/3/1932), children:
  • Percy Arthur, town clerk (nr Grantham?) (b Loughborough 1884, d Lincoln 7/10/1952) = (1915) Marguerite Louisa M. Deeley (b 1886, d London 18/11/1962), children:
    • George Kenneth (29/6/1916 - 20/5/1991) = (1947) Diana E Rutland (worked for BBC??), children:
      • Christopher Roper (1951 - )
      • Richard Charles (1954 - )
    • Richard A R (1921 - 1955)
  • Alfred Ernest, butcher (b Derby 1886) = (1909) xxxx, children:
    • daughter
    • son
  • Albert (b Loughborough 2/9/1887, d Ramsgate 20/7/1949) = (1910) Rose Amelia Wareham (23/12/1888 - 3/8/1974), children:
    • Frederick Albert Donald (21/9/1911 - 6/5/1982) = (1936) Elizabeth Mary Dain (1936 -4/5/1998), children:
      • Malcolm (1941 - ) = (1980) Christine M Corrado
      • David John (1943 - )
      • Andrew D. (1946 - ) = (1981) Maureen Ribton
      • Timothy D. (1950 - ) = (1983) Jane A. Davey
    • Rose Fay (1914 - ) = (1938) Leslie A. Sherrington, children:
      • Michael
  • John Henry (b Loughborough 1889, d 1917) = (1915) Annie M Draycott
  • Edith (1891 - ) = (1916) Hubert S Hyam [Hiam, acc Chapple], children:
    • Mary = xxxx
    • Hubert
  • Leonard, joiner (b Loughborough 17/4/1893, d 3/7/1969) (MBE 1953) = (1) (1918, Belton) Esther Mary Lovatt (b Waltham 12/8/1894, d Loughborough 19/2/1960)
    
    • Leonard Arthur (b 5/4/1920, d Knutsford 17/6/1992) = (5/4/1947 Loughborough) Nancy Taylor (11/8/1927 - ), children:
      • Leonard Peter (15/5/1950 - ) = (30/4/1974) Rebecca Moss (b Southport 1954), children:
        • Martin P (1/1/1983 - )
      • Joan Mary (1952 - ) = (1979) Lee Gardinor
      • John Arthur (1954 - )
      • Elizabeth Susan (1961 - ) = (1978) Philip J McLaren
    • Peggy (1926 - 1926)
    • Keith R (1926 - 1926)
    • Margaret M (24/12/1929 - 1970) = (1956) John Clews-Sydenham
    = (2) (1960) Annette Hannah Davids (16/7/1911 - 1995), children:
  • Kate Elizabeth (b Loughborough 1894 - ) = (1918) Oswald H Hale, children:
    • Ray
    • George
    • xxxx
  • Frederick (1897 - 1968) (see above)

  Evidence that Arthur = Elizabeth are the parents of our ancestor Frederick: Frederick's 1897 birth certificate names his parents as Arthur (joiner) and Elizabeth James and gives address 37 Broad St, matching the information on their marriage certificate and in the censuses; Frederick appears in 1901 census; family knowledge. Verdict: conclusive. Birth certificate: Elizabeth James was born 3 Feb 1863, at Caves Yard, Fleet St, Leicester. Her parents were Thomas James (stonemason journeyman) and Mary Burton. Marriage certificate: Arthur Benn (24, of 46 Church Gate, Loughborough) and Elizabeth James (22 or 20, of 9 Alan? St, Loughborough?) married 10 Apr 1883 at the parish church in Loughborough. John's father was John Benn (overlooker). Elizabeth's father is not given (died before the marriage?). 1901 census: Arthur (39, joiner and builder), Elizabeth (38), Percy (16, clerk of electric works), Alfred E. (15, joiners apprentice), Albert (13, builders clerk), Edith (10), John H. (12), Leonard (8), Kate (7) and Frederick (3) were at 37 Broad St, Loughborough, Leics. All were b in Loughborough, apart from Alfred (Derby). 1891 census: Arthur (32, joiner), Elizabeth (30), Percy A. (6, scholar), Alfred E. (5, scholar) were at 22 School St, Loughborough. The birthplaces are as given 1901. Other sources: Robert Chapple provided the tree of descendants from Arthur Benn.

• James Tierney, watchmaker, commercial traveller (and iron-worker?) (b Willowholme, Carlisle, Cumberland 1852, d 1933) = (1875, Carlisle) Phoebe Annie James (b Shottery, Warks, ~ 1854, d 1884, daughter of John James, coachman), children:
  • Annie Beatty, school teacher (1876 - ?) = Burrows
  • Amy Hilda (b Denton 1877, d ?) = 'Dunstan'?
  • Mabel (1878 - ?)
  • James, watchmaker and jeweller (b Denton 1879, d ?), emigrated 1918 to Golden, Colorado, opened jewellery store at 1206 Washington Avenue, now (1999) Plummer's Jewelry.
  • Millicent G, draper's assistant (d Denton 1881, d ?) (Millicent Clara, b 1880?)
  • Edith M (1883 - ?), children:
    • Michael, 15?
    • Robert, 13?
    (both `scholarship boys, one at Bristol Cathedral School, one at Bluecoat school')
  
  = (second marriage, 1888) Eliza Powell, schoolteacher in 1881 (b 1861, Moat Chirbury, Salop, d 1926), children:
  • Robert D., optician (1889 - ~ 1952) = Sarah Plomby??, no children
  • Jack (~ 1892 - 1960; also an optician) = Betty, children:
    • Derek
    • Geoffrey
  • Mary (1894 - ?) (see above)
  • William (1898 - ?), died in world war I

  Evidence that James = Eliza are the parents of our ancestor Mary: Family knowledge, that parents were James Tierney = Eliza Powell. Verdict: conclusive. Birth certificate: James Tierney was born 29 Nov 1852, at 9 Chapel Lane, Willowholme, Carlisle. His parents were James Tierney ('hicner'??) [possibly consistent with 'weaver'] and Alice Giles. Birth certificate: Eliza Powell was born 11 Jun 1861 at Moat [Farm?], Chirbury. Her parents were Edward Powell (farmer) and Eliza Makelin [sic]. Marriage certificate: James Tierney (22, of Macclesfield) married (for the first time) Annie James (21, of Cumberland St) on 1 Jan 1875 (at St James' church, acc D). Their parents were James Tierney (ironworker) and John James, coachman. Marriage certificate: James Tierney (35, of 41 Bury St) married (for the second time) Eliza Powell (27, of 18 Church St) on 11 Sep 1888, at the church of Sacred Trinity, Salford. The addresses are probably addresses of convenience. D has a copy of the parish record from All Souls church. Their parents were James Tierney (ironfounder) and Edward Powell (farmer, deceased). 1903 Slater's directory: James Tierney is at 8 Ashton Rd. 1901 census: James (22, watchmaker and jeweller), Amy (24) and Millicent (20, draper's assistant) were at 8 Ashton Rd, Denton. All b Denton, Lancs. The other members of the family don't appear in the census. 1891 census: James (38, commercial traveller), Lizzie (29), Annie (15, schoolteacher), Amy (14, scholar), Mabel (13, scholar), James (12, scholar), Millicent (10, scholar), Edith M (8, scholar), Robert (1) were at 4 Albert Rd, Levenshulme (par. borough Stretford). James (22) was born in Carlisle, Lizzie in Bishops Castle, the children in Manchester, Lancs. 1881 census: James (32, watchmaker), Annie (28), Annie B. (5, scholar), Amy (4), Mabel (3), and James (2) were at 58 Ashton New Rd., Beswick, Manchester (parish of St Mary's). All the children were born in Manchester. Annie was born in Shottery, Warks, others as in 1891 census. There is also a servant Elizabeth Stewart, born in Ireland. 1881 census: Eliza - see under Edward Powell (father). Family knowledge: from FRB: Annie and Amy's husbands' names; Millicent was Millicent Clara b 1880.

• Alfred Joseph Strain (orig. Joseph Alfred), gold-cutter, jeweller (b Birmingham 1864, d ?), = (1890 q2) Emily Jane Came (b Birmingham 1866, d ~ 1937) children:
  • Albert (born Horace A.?) = Elsie, no children. Albert is probably the oldest son.
  • Percy Horace (Horace?) (born Alfred E.?) = Lily?, children:
    • Sidney?
  • Arthur (1903 - ?) (see above), the youngest

  Evidence that Alfred Joseph = Emily are the parents of our ancestor Arthur: Arthur's 1903 birth certificate names his parents as Alfred Joseph (gold-cutter) and Emily, and gives an address 55 Ingleby St., and this information matches that in the censuses. Verdict: conclusive. Birth certificate: Joseph Alfred [sic] was born 7 Jun 1864 at 43 Carver St, Birmingham. His parents were Joseph Strain ('baker - master') and Harriet Handy. Birth certificate Emily Jane Came was born 20 Apr 1866, at Hingeston St, All Saints, Birmingham. Her parents were Charles Cames (railway porter) and Emily Southall. 1901 Kelly's: Alfred was a shopkeeper at 55 Ingleby St. 1901 census: Alfred J (35, goldcutter), Emily J (34), Horace A (10) and Alfred E (5) were at 55 Ingleby St, Birmingham (parish of St Mark's). All b Birmingham, Warks. 1891 census: Alfred J (26, jewellers gold cutter), Emily J (24) and Horace (10 months), were at 8 Matilda Place, Birmingham.

• Thomas Robinson, boot-maker (b Birmingham 1878, d 1943) = (1899) Sarah Ann York (Sally) (b Walsall 1876, d 1971), children:
  • Dorothea (1900 - 1956) (see above)
  • Bernard (1904 - Feb 1977) = May (Bernard's cousin, see under entry for Charles Robinson), children:
    • Jenny = Jack Cole

  Evidence that Thomas = Sarah Ann are the parents of our ancestor Dorothea: Dorothea A. is an unusual name, and appears both on her 1900 certificate of registration of birth and in the 1901 census entry; family knowledge of her parents and of Thomas' profession. Verdict: conclusive. Birth certificate: Sarah Ann York was born 21 Dec 1876, at Pratt's Bridge, Bloxwich. Her parents were John York (puddler of local? forge) and Comfort Fisher. 1901 census: Thomas (21, boot maker), Sarah (23) and Dorothea A. (5 months), and Alice York (20, housemaid '(Dom)?') were at 2 Defford Rd, W. Birmingham (parish St Saviour, municipal ward All Saints). Thomas b in Birmingham, Sarah and Alice in Walsall, Staffs, Dorothea in Handsworth, Staffs. 1910 Kelly's: Bootmaker at 59 Anglesey St, Lozells. Places today: Anglesey St not much changed when B visited it 2005, but now a corner shop.

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Charles Robinson	John York	Comfort Fisher	Comfort Fisher

• John Benn, overlooker, hosiery factory (b Leicester 1832, d Loughborough 25/2/1893) = (5/6/1855, Leicester) Ann Hallam (b Leicester 1831, d Loughborough 6/5/1906), children:
  • Arthur (1859 - ), see above
  • Annie Maude, hosiery maker (1867 - 1959)

  Evidence that John = Ann are the parents of our ancestor Arthur: Arthur's 1883 marriage certificate names his father as John Benn (overlooker), and gives his address as 46 Church Gate, and this information matches that in the censuses; Arthur appears in 3 of the censuses, and one gives his profession as joiner. Verdict: conclusive. Marriage certificate: John Benn (warehouseman, of Conduit St, Leicester) married Ann Hallam (of Bowling Green St, Leicester) on 5 Jun 1855, at the church of St John, parish of St Margaret, Leicester. Their fathers were Joseph Benn (sinker maker) and Thomas Hallam (cordwainer). 1906 will: Ann, of 35 Lower Hastings St, Leicester, d 6/5/1906 [RC]. 1901 census: Ann (70) and Annie M. (34, daughter, 'maker up hosiery') were at 85 Leopold St, Loughborough, Leics. 1893 will: John Benn, of 46 Church gate, d 25/2/1893 [RC]. 1891 census: John (58, time keeper, hosiery factory), Ann (60), Annie M (24, household duties) were at 46 or 44 Church Gate, Loughborough. All were born in Leicester. 1881 census: John (48, overlooker in hosiery factory), Ann (50), Arthur (22, joiner), Annie Maud (14, scholar) and Elizabeth Hallam (81, mother, widow, interest of money) were at 46 Ashby Rd, Loughborough All born Leicester, apart from Elizabeth Hallam (Lutterworth, Leicester). 1871 census: John (38, warehouse man), Ann (40), Arthur (12, scholar), Ann (4, scholar) were at 30 Ayleston St, Leicester (parish of St Mary). All born Leicester. 1861 census: John (28, warehouseman), Ann (30, housewife), Arthur (2) were at 13 Burton? St, Leicester (parish of St Margaret's). All born Leicester.

• Thomas James, brewer's drayman, ? journeyman (b Leicester ~ 1822) = Mary Burton (b 1830, Slawston, Leics), children:
  • son (~ 1850)
  • Mary (~ 1856)
  • John (~ 1857)
  • Saul?? (~ 1860)

  Evidence that Thomas = Mary are the parents of our ancestor Elizabeth: Elizabeth's 1863 birth's certificate names her parents as Thomas Burton (stonemason) = Mary Burton, and gives an address of Caves Yard, which matches the information in the 1861 census. Verdict: probable. 1871 census: Mary (40, widow, mender), Mary (16, mender), Samuel (10, scholar), Abraham (9, scholar), Elizabeth (7, scholar), John (5, scholar), Jane (3, scholar) were lodgers at 27 and a half Fleet St, Leicester (parish of St Margaret), sharing with Ann and William Davenport and a 'boarder' Charlotte Carton(?). All of the James family were b in `Lester'. 1861 census: Tho? (39, stone mason), Mary (32), Henry? (son, 11), Mary (5), John (4) and Saul?? (8 months) were at 6 Caves Yard, Leicester (parish of St Margaret). All b Leicester apart from Mary (32), b Slawson(?) [prob Slawston].

• James Tierney, iron-worker, iron-founder (possibly at Whitworth Armstrong in N of England) (b Carlisle ~ 1825, d after 1888) = (Carlisle, Dec 1850) Alice Giles (b Carlisle ~ 1818), children
  • James (b 1852)
  • Stephen (b ~ 1850)
  
  

  Evidence that James = Alice are the parents of our ancestor James: James' 1852 birth certificate names his parents as James Tierney and Alice Giles, and gives an address in Willowholme, matching the information on the marriage certificate of James = Alice, and the information in the censuses; family knowledge that James worked at Armstrong Whitworth. Verdict: conclusive. Marriage certificate: James Tierney (adult, weaver, of Trinity Buildings used to be 80 tenements on Wigton Rd, acc google) married Alice Giles (adult, weaver, of Willowholme) 23 Nov 1850. Their fathers' names were not given. 1901 census: No entry. 1891 census: James (65, boarder, widower, general labourer) at 46 Northbourne St (first letter unclear), Elswick (north), Newcastle-upon-Tyne. Born Carlisle, Cumberland. 1881 census: James (55, fitters labourer '(E&M)'?) and Alice (64) were living at 8 Walter St, Hedworth, Monkton and Jarrow (census centre), Durham. [This is not far from son Stephen.] Both b Carlisle. 1871 census: James (46, finisher of cotton cloth) and Alice (52) were at Welsh Square (no number given), Carlisle (parish St Mary, municipal ward Rickersgate?). Both b Carlisle, Cumberland. 1861 census: James (36, 'ostler'??), Alice (43), James (7, scholar), Stephen (9, scholar) are at 9 Welsh Court, Carlisle (parish St Mary, mun ward Rickergate). All b Carlisle. 1851 census: No entries in either English or Welsh censuses. Family knowledge: James (1852 -) had a brother Stephen who was a mining engineer, and died of fever while working on Panama Canal; James worked all his life at Armstrong Whitworth's gun factory at Newcastle-on-Tyne.

• Edward Powell, farmer (b Chirbury ~1829, alive in 1871, killed before 11/9/1888 in shooting accident) = (1/10/1856) Eliza Makelin, (b Clun, ~ 1832) children:
  • Eliza (b Chirbury, 1861, d 1926), see above
  • Edward (b Chirbury 1866) + more?

  Evidence that Edward = Eliza are the parents of our ancestor Eliza: Eliza's 1861 birth certificate names her parents as Edward Powell (farmer) and Eliza Makelin, and gives an address Moat Chirbury, matching the information on the marriage certificate of Edward = Eliza, and in the censuses; Eliza appears in two of the censuses; family knowledge that Eliza had an uncle Jerry Powell. Verdict: conclusive. Marriage certificate: Edward Powell (27, farmer, of Chirbury) married Eliza Macklin (24, of Snead) 1 Oct 1856 at Snead, Montgomeryshire. Their fathers were William?? [illegible, consistent with Jeremiah??] Powell (farmer) and William Macklin (farmer). 1881 census: No entry for Edward the elder (probably dead), or for Eliza Powell (the mother)? No entry for Edward the younger in either the English or Welsh censuses. Eliza (19), Elizabeth Powell (45) and Sophia Powell (42) were at Castle Terrace, Montgomery. 1871 census: Edward (42, farmer 220 acres employing 3 men and 2 boys), Eliza (37), Eliza (9, scholar), Edward W (5, scholar) were at Moat Farm, Chirbury, Dudston, together with Mary Jones (visitor, 44 farmer's wife) and 6 general and farm servants. Edward and Eliza (9) were born in Chirbury, Salop, Eliza was born in Clun, Salop. 1861 census: Edward (33, farmer) and Eliza (29, farmer's wife) were at Moat Farm with Jeremiah Powell (see separate entry) and family. Edward was born in Chirbury, Eliza in Clun. Family knowledge: Eliza had a brother William [incorrect, according to the above]; she had an uncle Jerry Powell. Places today: Kathleen (Davies) living at Moat Farm.

  Joseph Strain, master baker (b Alcester, ~ 1822, prob d by 1881) = (q4 1849) Harriet Handy, steel-pen maker (b Birmingham ~ 1826), children:

  • William, military ornamenter (1850 - )
  • Clara, steel-pen maker (b ~ 1852)
  • Thomas, jeweller (b ~ 1858)
  • John, painter (b ~ 1860 - )
  • Sarah, steel-pen maker (b ~ 1863)
  • Joseph Alfred (b 1864), see above
  • Emma (b ~ 1866 - )

  Evidence that = Joseph and Harriet are the parents of our ancestor Joseph Alfred: The 1864 birth certificate of Joseph Alfred (later Joseph) names his parents as Joseph Strain (baker) and Harriet Handy, and gives an address Carver St., matching the information on the marriage certificate of Joseph = Harriet, and the information in the censuses; Joseph's profession is given in the 1881 census as 'gold-cutter'. Verdict: conclusive. Marriage certificate Joseph Strain ('full'?, baker, of Harborne) married Harriet Handy ('full'?, of Harborne) 26 Dec 1849, at ???. Their fathers were John Strain (bricklayer) and Thomas Handy (painter). 1905 Kelly's?: Strain, 85 Carver St, painters 1891 census: Harriet (64), Thomas (31, brass polisher), Emma (21, military ornament polisher) and George Fletcher (10, grandson), were at 41 Clissold St, Birmingham. In a separate household at the same address were William (38, military ornament worker?) = Annie (28), and children Harry (5), William (4) and Ernest (1). 1881 census: Harriet (56, steel pen maker), William (30, military ornament maker), Clara (29, steel pen maker), Thomas (23, jeweller), John (21, painter), Sarah (18, steel pen maker), Joseph (16, gold cutter) and Emma (15, scholar) were living at 21 Clissold St, Birmingham, with visitors Alfred Handy (7) and Flory handy (2?). All born in Birmingham. 1871 census: No entry for Joseph or Harriet. 1861 census: Joseph (40, baker), Harriet (34), William (10), Clara (9), Drusilla (4), Thomas (3), Agnes (1), John (5 months) were at 43 Carver St, Birminghm (mun ward All Sants), together with 2 lodging couples (surnames Holden, Haklsy(?)). All the Strains were b Birmingham, apart from Joseph (Alcester, Warks). 1851 census: See under Thomas Handy for Joseph (28) and Hariet (25). Places today: According to B 2005, most of Clissold St has been rebuilt as an industrial park.

• Charles Came (b Huntspill, Somerset, ~ 1834), railway porter = (q3 1859) Emily Southall (b Birmingham, ~ 1842, probably d Aston 1905 q4), children at least:
  • Charles William (b ~ 1861), railway porter
  • Emily Jane (b 1866, d ~ 1937), see above
  • Emily (b ~ 1867), sempster
  • John Henry (b ~ 1868)
  • Amelia (b ~ 1871)
  • Arthur (b ~ 1876)
  • Edwin (b ~ 1877)
  • Ernest J., gun-spring maker (~1880 -)
  • Arthur D., assistant in music shop (~1885 -)
  • Frances N. (~1891 -)

  Evidence that Charles = Emily are the parents of our ancestor Emily Jane: Emily Jane's 1866 birth certificate names her parents as Charles Came (railway porter) and Emily, and gives an address Hingeston St, matching the information in the censuses; Emily Jane is an unusual name and is confirmed in the 1871 census. Verdict: conclusive. Birth certificate: Emily Southall was born 22 May 1841 at 18 Eyres St, Lady Wood, Birmingham. Her parents were Joseph Southall (glass blower) and Maria Corbett. 1901 census: Charles (67, railway goods yard foreman), Emily (59), Ernest J (21, gun spring maker), Arthur D (16, assistant music shop), Frances (10) were living at 11 Charles Rd, Aston, Birmingham. All born Birmingham, apart from Charles, b in Huntspill, Somerset. 1891 census: Not present. 1881 census: Charles (47, railway foreman porter), Emily (39, sempstress), Charles William (20, railway porter), Emily (14, scholar), John Henry (13, scholar), Amelia (10, scholar), Arthur (5, scholar), Edwin (4, scholar) and Ernest (1) were living at 253 Camden St, Birmingham (mun ward All Saints). All born in Birmingham, apart from Charles, born in Huntspill. 1871 census: Charles (34?, railway serv.?), Emily (29), Chas Wm (10), Emily Jane (4), John Hy (3), Amelia (8 months) were at 1back of no. 3, Hingestone St??, Birmingham (mun ward All Saints). Birthplace as in 1881 census. 1861 census: Not present. Places today: Camden St had been rebuilt when B visited it 2005.

• Charles Robinson, brass-founder, journeyman (b Birmingham 1843, d 19/8/1919 at 2 court, Brearley St?) = Mary Whitehouse (b Birmingham 1844, d 1/10/1906 at Brearley St, Birmingham), children:
  • Sarah Jane (28/1/1866 - ) = (1/4/1888, St Martins, B'ham) William Lambourn ('wood chair seat maker') (d 31/7/36)
  • Mary (Polly) (28/8/1868 -, or c1875 - 1956??) = Bill Bennett or Bennet ( - 1946), children:
    • Cissie (Ciss) (14/11/95 - )
    • Billy = Grace, children:
      • Grace
      • Kathleen
    • Charles = Gladys, children
      • Roger (d 1985) = (8/9/1951) Beryl Gough, children:
        • Simon = (1) Carolina
          = (2) Regina, children:
          • Olivia (1995 - )
          • Andrew (1997 - )
        • Joanna = (1) John, children:
          • Stephanie
          • Sophie
          
          = (2) Craig
      • David = (1959) Barbara, children:
        • Belinda
        • Mandy
        • Peter
    • May (1905 - 1981) = Bernard (May's cousin), see above for children.
    • Edith (Dede) = Tony Bellamy
  • Charles (28/1/1870 - ) = Julie, children:
    • Ethel = John Barnsley?, children:
      • John
      • Anne?
    • Herbert = (1) xxxx (d.)
      = (2) xxxx
    • Ada = Arthur, 2 children
    • Edith = ?, 3 children
    • Thomas = ?
  • Ellen (22/2/1872 - 7/10/1955) (Nelly) = (25/12/1893) John Charles Lambourn, chair-maker (1873 - 18/9/1953), children:
    • May (1894 - 1902)
    • Ellen (1896 - 1896)
    • Gertrude
    • Leonard John (1897 - 1971) = Emily Moore (1898 - 1971), children:
      • Ray (1929 - )
      • Brian (1932 - ) = (1955?) Pat Bayliss, children:
        • John (1964 - )
        • David (1969 - )
  • Arthur (3/8/1873 - 28/2/1874)
  • Henry (19/2/1875 - 1876)
  • Thomas (18/8/1879 - 1945?) (see above)
  • Elizabeth (Eliza) (21/9/1882 - )
  • Edith (10/9/1886 - 22/3/1964), remained single

  Evidence that Charles = Mary are the parents of our ancestor Thomas: Name and date fit with 1891 census; Thomas' profession is similar to that of 2 of his siblings; family knowledge of Thomas' siblings matches household in 1901 census. Verdict: conclusive. 1901 census: Charles (58, brass founder) and Mary (56) were at '3 Back 32brearley St', Handsworth, Staffs. Both born Birmingham, Warks. William Lambourn (36, fish-shop keeper), Sarah Jane (34) and Edith Robinson (14) were at 41 Granville St. William Bennett (33), Mary (32), William (8) and Cissie (4) were at 54 Brewery St, Handsworth. Charles Robinson (31), Julie (35), Ethel (8), Ada (6), Edith (4) and Herbert (1) were at 350 Park Rd. John Charles Lambourn (27), Ellen (29), May (6) and Leonard John (3) were at Chesterton Rd, Balsall Heath. 1891 census: Charles (54, but might be '50', brass-founder?), Mary (49, 'son'!), Mary (22, boot?binder), Charles (boot- or book-binder), Ellen (19, illigible??), Thomas (11, scholar), Edith (4) were at 29 Clifton Rd, Balsall Heath. 1881 census: No entry. 1871 census: Charles (28, brass founder), Mary Ann (27), Sarah J (5), Mary (3) and Charles (1 or 3) were at 3-Bk Emily Terrace, Emily St, Aston, Birmingham (mun ward Deritent in Borkesley??). Both born in Birmingham. 1861 census: No entry. Family knowledge: Most of the remaining information is from Ray Lambourn's document on the Robinsons.

• John York, labourer, wagon works; iron puddler (b Bloxwich, Staffs 1850 - ) = (Walsall, Dec 1875) Comfort (Patience?) Fisher (b Darlaston, Walsall, 1856, d ?), children:
  • Sarah Ann (Sally Ann) (1876 - ) (see above)
  • Alice (1881 - ) = (1) Thomas? Bramley, children:
    • John Bernard York Bramley
    
    = 2 (Pilsall) Archibald Holmes, no children
  • a twin of Alice died at birth
  • Thomas (b Smethwick ~ 1878) = Marie, children:
    • Donald
    • Marie
    • Elsie Comfort (b ~ 1894 Smethwick)
  • Isabella (Belle) = Mark Dickenson, no children
  • Florence (b ~ 1887 Smethwick) = Leonard Pickard, children:
    • Rene = Ernest Porter, children:
      • Francis
      • Christopher
    • Bernard = Eva
    • Chrissie = xxxx, 3 children:
      • Elaine
      • Michael
      • Darral
    • Miriam Mary (Minnie) (5 Dec 1882 - 5/1924) = Albert Avery, children:
      • Ruby = George Stokes, children:
        • Linda = David Simmonds, children:
          • Jane
          • Chantelle
    • John (Jack) Bernard (b ~ 1891 Smethwick) = Kitty, children:
      • Oscar
      • Bernard

    Evidence that John = Comfort are the parents of our ancestor Sarah Ann: Sarah Ann's 1876 birth certificate gives the names of her parents as John York = Comfort, with an address Pratts Bridge, Bloxwich, matching the information given in the censuses below. Verdict: conclusive. 1911 census: Alice Bramley (York), John Bernard York Bramley [incomplete] were living at 73 Sydenham Rd, Smethwick 1901 census: John (51, labourer wagon works), Comfort (45), Florence (14), Thomas (13, errand boy works), John Bernard (10) and Elsie Comfort (7) were living at 21 Mornington Rd, Smethwick, Handsworth. John was born in Bloxwich, Comfort in Walsall, the children in Smethwick, all in Staffs. 1891 census: John (41, 'otnerskers'?? shop 'keyser'??), Comfort (35), Sarah Ann (14), Alice (10, scholar), Durkam?? [prob. Miriam?] (8, scholar), Isabella (6, scholar), Florence (4), Thomas (3) were at 23 Mornington Rd, Harborne, Smethwick, Handsworth. John was born Bloxwich, Comfort in Darlaston, Sarah Ann in Bloxwich, Alice in Pilsall? (Walsall?), Durkam?? and Isabella in Handsworth and Florence and Thomas in Smethwick, all in Staffs. 1881 census: John (31, general lab), Comfort (26), Sarah Ann (4) and Alice (2 months) were living at 49 Mornington Rd., Harborne, Staffs. Birthplaces as given in 1891, except that Alice's is clearly 'Pilsall'. There's another York family at the same address: Joseph (33, iron worker - millman, b Bilston), wife Martha (32?, b Bloxwich) and children Henry (11, scholar, b Walsall) and Frances (1, b W Bromwich). Family knowledge: Miriam Mary died (of peritonitis, during pregnancy) when Ruby was 9, According to Ruby, family home was 73 Sydenham Rd, Smethwick. Comfort later (~ 1915) married Major Thompson.

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  32 great-great-great-grandparents, and some descendants

  • Joseph Benn (b Leics. 1809 -?) = (26/10/1831, Leicester) Christiana Lewin (b Billesden? 1804, d Leicester 9/1877), children:
    • John (1832 - 1893) (see above)
    • Edwin (1838 - 1841)
    • William (1835 - ) = (9/2/1860, Leicester) Margaret Whitehead Watson (b Norwich 1834, d 1882), children:
      • Alice (b Norwich 1860) = Axxxx Baker
      • William Joseph (b Heigham, Norwich 27/4/1863, d Norwich 4/9/1957) = (25/12/1887, Norwich) Emily Huggins (b 'Mulbarton' 1864, d 9/7/1949), children:
        • Bertie William (b Norwich 7/2/1889, killed Somme 19/7/1916)
        • Walter Horace (b Norwich 2/10/1890, killed France 2/8/1917) = (1914) Ada Bertha Bunn (b 2/11/19??)
        • Arthur Joseph (b Norwich 24/4/1893, d 7/10/1954) = (25/1/1917 Newtown) Hannah Brown Haswell (12/11/1892 - 8/5/1954), children:
          • Alfred William Frederick (b 27/4/1921) = (23/2/1946) Gladys Florence May Smale (8/12/1923 - ), children:
            • Patricia Mary (20/6/1949 - ) = (18/4/1969, Australia) Walter John Rooke (24/10/1945 - ), children:
              • Krystin Kylie (19/12/1972 - ) = (22/2/1997) Scott Ward
              • Amanda Kaili (10/6/1979 - )
            • Colin (7/8/1953 - ) = (10/1/1976) Marilyn March (24/12/1952 - ), children:
              • Narah (2/2/1987 - )
              • Fraya
          • Constance M (13/5/1923 - 1/7/1923)
        • Lilian Margaret (b Norwich 25/1/1895, d Heigham 3/7/19??) = (1921) Charles L Debbage (26/5/19??), children:
          • Emily Margaret (20/7/1920 - ) = Edward Wilson, children:
            • Roger (20/5/19?? - ) = Grace xxxx
            • Raymond Charles (21/8/19?? - ) = (23/2/??, Gt Yarmouth) Pauline C Ellet
            • Ginnette M (28/7/19?? - )
            • Josephine M (7/7/19?? - ) = Tony Atkins, children:
              • Richard Edward (31/12/19?? - )
        • Florence Emily (b Norwich 19/7/1897) = (1947) William George Beaumont (b 19/3/19??)
        • Hilda Alice (b Norwich 31/10/1898) = (1925, Norwich) Wilfred R Balls (26/9/1892 - 1956) , children:
          • Joan (4/9/1926 - )
          • Olive G (27/7/1932 - ) = James Waterfield
        • Ethel Violet (b Norwich 8/10/1900, d 11/6/1980, Aylsham) = (15/10/1927, Norwich) George James Sayer (b Norwich 15/3/1901, d Norwich 9/11/1960), children:
          • Janice Ethel (b Norwich 22/9/1938) = (7/10/1961, Hellesdon) Michael John Collins (25/10/1038 - ), children:
            • Paul David (27/9/1962 - ) = (15/5/1967) Mandy Smith, children:
              • Craig Tony (6/5/1988 - )
              • Matthew Michael (25/3/1991 - )
              • Jack Paul (11/4/1997 - )
            • Helen Ruth (21/4/1966 - ) = (1) (21/7/1984) Wayne Pickering;
              = (2) (31/5/1997) Roger Scott Martell
            • Iain (2/7/1969 - ) = (12/10/1991) Angie Smith (2/3/1969 - )
          • John Michael (b Norwich 26/9/1942 - ) = (1) (1966, Hellesdon) Patricia Ann Minster (b Norwich 9/2/1945), children:
            • Peter James (b Norfolk 1/6/1968)
            • Karen Louise (b Beccles 2/10/1969)
            = (2) (2/7/1988, Lowestoft) Frances Jermy (6/8/1957 - )
        • Cecil Robert (b Norwich 15/12/1902, d 1973) = (1934) Ethel Alexandra Bush (9/8/1902 - 1990), children:
          • Malcolm R. (3/8/1940 - ) = (1964) Patricia A Preston, children:
            • Diane Carol (1978 - )
          • Barbara A. (1945 - ) = (1965) John Sharwood, children:
            • Robert
            • Richard
        • William Joseph (b 20/10/1906, d 5/8/1994) = (1) (1943) Gertrude Moore (1907 - 2/1/1969); = (2) (1971) Beatrice H Coxford
    • Walter (b Heigham, Norwich 1869, d 1922) = (1888) Emma Sheldrake/Plummer

  Evidence that Joseph = Christiana are the parents of our ancestor John: John's 1855 marriage certificate names his father as Joseph Benn (sinker-maker), and gives an address Conduit St, matching the information in the 1841 census. Verdict: conclusive. 1871 census: Christiana (66, widow, laundress) was at 2 Conduit St, Leicester (parish of St Margaret's), together with two lodgers (surnames Hodgson and Humphreys). Christiana was born in Billesden. 1861 census: Christiana (55, widow, laundress) was at 2 Conduit St, Leicester. together with a boarder (surname Tomlinson). Born Billesdon. 1851 census: No entry. 1841 census: Joseph (30, ironworker, sinkermaker??), Christianna (35), John (8), William (6), Edwin (3) and Mary (60, mother) were at Conduit St, Leicester (parish of St Margaret's with Bishops Fee). Mary was presumably the widow of Richard Benn (above). All born in Leics. Places today: Saw Conduit St 2006, even numbers gone, probably demolished to build Leicester railway station.

• Thomas Hallam, cordwainer = Elizabeth xxxx (b Lutterworth Leics, ~ 1800)
  

  Evidence that Thomas = Elizabeth are the parents of our ancestor Ann: Ann's 1855 marriage certificate gives her mother's name as Elizabeth, and in the 1881 census, Elizabeth ('mother') is with her son-in-law John Benn, Verdict: plausible. 1881 census: Elizabeth living with daughter Elizabeth and son-in-law John Benn (see their census entry). 1871 census: Elizabeth Hallam (71, widow, 'anniscitard'??) was at 28 Ayleston St, Leicester (parish of St Mary). b Lutterworth. 1861 census: Elizabeth Hallam (61, widow, superintendent in warehouse) was at 1 Slawstone? St, Leicester (parish of St Margaret's). Born Lutterworth. 1851 census: Elizabeth Hallam (51, widow?, 'clear marcher'??) was at 41? Duke St, Leicester (parish of St Marys). Born Leicester.

• xxxx James = xxxx
  

  Evidence that ...:

• Thomas? Burton (b Leics ~ 1801) = Elizabeth xxxx (b Leics ~ 1801), children:
  • John (~ 1826 - )
  • William (~ 1828 - )
  • Mary (~ 1831 - ) (see above)
  • Thomas (~ 1833 -)
  • Ann (~ 1835 - )
  • Betsey (~ 1837 - )
  • Samuel (~ 1839 - )
  
  

  Evidence that Thomas = Elizabeth are the parents of our ancestor Mary: ?? Verdict: inconclusive. 1841 census: Thomas (40, grazier), Elizabeth (40), John (15), William (13), Mary (10), Thomas (8), Ann (6), Betsey (4), Samuel (2) were at Great Easton (no street address) (~ 20 miles SE of Leicester) All born in this county.

• xxxx Tierney = xxxx
  

  Evidence that... :

• Stephen Giles (b ~ 1781) = Elizabeth xxxx (b ~ 1786), children:
  • Thomas (~ 1821 - )
  • Watson (~ 1821 - )
  • Alice (~ 1821 - )
  • Mary?? (~ 1831 - )
  • George (~ 1841 - )
  
  

  Evidence that Stephen = Elizabeth are the parents of our ancestor Alice: Alic was b ~ 1818 (acc to censuses 1861-81), consistent with the age here; profession (weaver) and place (Willowholme) match. Verdict: very probable. 1851 census: No entries for Stephen or Elizabeth in Carlisle. 1841 census: Stephen (60, weaver), Elizabeth (55), Thomas (20, weaver), Watson (20, weaver), Alice (20, weaver), Maryarat? (10), George (3 months) were at Willowholme, Caldengate??, Carlisle, Cumberland. The children were b in Cumberland, the parents were not.

• Jeremiah Powell (b Chirbury, 1789 - 1878) = (1863?) Mary xxxx (b Church Stoke, ~1796 - ), children:
  • Edward (~1829 - ), see above
  • Thomas (~1833 - )
  • Elizabeth (b Chirbury ~ 1834), dressmaker, unmarried, living in Montgomery 1901
  • Sophia (b Chirbury ~ 1837), dressmaker, unmarried, living in Montgomery 1901
  
  

  Evidence that Jeremiah = Mary are the parents of our ancestor Edward: Edward's date and place of birth match the census information. Verdict: very probable. 1901 census: Elizabeth (67, living on own mean) and Sophia (64, servant, living on own mean) were living at 3 Castle Terrace, Montgomery, Montgomeryshire. Both born Chirbury, Salop. (1881: see under Eliza Powell) 1881 census: No entry for Jeremiah. 1871 census: Jeremiah (82, retired farmer), Elizabeth (37, dressmaker), Sophia (34, dressmaker), George B? Frachte (first letter unclear) (13, grandson, scholar) were at Little Moat, Chirbury, Dudston. 1861 census: Jeremiah (72, farmer of 220 acres 4 lab), Mary (65, farmer's wife), Elizabeth (27), Sophia (24), George B Frachtte (3), were at Moat Farm, Dudston, together with 2 servants Thomas Williams (17, sawman) and James Diven? (16, carter). Jeremiah, Elizabeth and Sophia were born in Chirbury, Salop, Mary (65) in Church Stoke, Montgomeryshire, George in Stretham, Surrey. 1851 census: Jeremiah (61, farmer), Mary (54), Edward (22), Mary (18), Elizabeth (16), Sophia (14), John (70?, brother) and 2 servants were at Little Moat, Dudston. 1841 census: Jeremiah (50, farmer), Mary (45), Edward (13), Mary (9), Elizabeth (7), Sophia (4), John (60) and 5 laboureres were at Little Moat farm, Chirbury.

• William Macklin (b Discout?, ~ 1794) = Anne xxxx (b Clun, ~ 1796), children:
  • Richard (~ 1822 - )
  • Mary (~ 1827 - )
  • Elizah (~ 1832 - ) (see above)
  • John (~ 1832 - )
  • Frances (~ 1835 - )
  • William (~ 1842 - )
  
  

  Evidence that William = Anne are the parents of our ancestor Eliza Makelin: Eliza's 1856 marriage certificate names her father as William Macklin (farmer) and gives her address as Snead, which is not far from Bettws (although there's more than one Bettws). Eliza was b in Clun ~ 1832, consistent with Elizah being 9 in the 1841 census. 'Discout' may be Discoed, S of Clun. Verdict: very probable. 1871 census: No entry for William or Anne. 1861 census: William (67, farmer of 200 acres), Anne (65), John (29), William (19), and 2 servants (farm bailiff, agricultural labour), are at Mainstone, Salop. William (67) was born in Discout, Radnorshire, Anne in Clun, Salop, and the two sons in Bettws, Salop. 1851 census: No entry for William. 1841 census: William (45, farmer), Anne (40), Richard (19), Mary (14), John (11), Elizah (9), Frances (6) were at Tinamon, Bettws, Trebrodier. All born in same county. Family knowledge: Envelope addressed to William Macklin, DuPage county, Illinois, postmark 28/7/1868, maybe one of the above Williams.

• John Strain, bricklayer (b Alcester ~ 1779) = Sarah xxxx, needlemaker (b Alcester ~ 1781), children:
  
  • Joseph (see above)
  • Elizabeth
  • Rhoda

  Evidence that John = Sarah are the parents of our ancestor Joseph: Joseph's 1849 marriage certificate names his father as John Strain (bricklayer), which matches the information in the 1851 and 1861 censuses (Joseph isn't mentioned in the 1851 census, probably left home by then); the 1861 census (see under Joseph) gives his place of birth as Alcester. Verdict: probable. 1861 census: Sarah (80, superannuated, 'formerly seamstress'?, 'crippled'?), Elizabeth (36, daughter) were at Cools Lane, Alcester. All born in Alcester. 1851 census: John (72, bricklayer), Sarah (70, needlemaker), Elizth (28), Emma Cook (16, niece, needlemaker) were at 10 Bleachfield St, Alcester. 1841 census: John (60, bricklayer), Sarah (60), Elizabeh (35) and Rhoda (20) were at Bleachfield St.

• Thomas Handy, painter and glazer (b Warwick ~ 1799) = Sarah xxxx (b Birmingham ~ 1798), children:
  • Benjamin, painter and paper-hanger (b Birmingham, ~ 1821 - ) = Emily, pressworker (b Birmingham ~ 1822 - ), children:
    • George M (~ 1849 - )
    • Thomas (~ 1851 - )
    • Elizabeth (~ 1853 - )
  • Thomas (~ 1826 - )
  • Harriet (~ 1826 - ) (see above)
  
  

  Evidence that Thomas = Sarah are the parents of our ancestor Harriet: Harriet's 1849 marriage certificate names her father as Thomas Handy (painter), consistent with the 1861 census below; the marriage certificate gives an address Harborne [consistent with Carver St?]; Harriet appears in the 1851 census with husband Joseph Strain; the 1861 census mentions a Drusilla Strain. Verdict: conclusive. 1891 census: No entry for Sarah. 1881 census: Sarah Handy (83, widow, coal dealer) and daughters in law Emily (59, widow, coal dealer's assistant) and Emma Elizth. (28, widow, steel pen maker) are living at 10 Carver St, Birmingham (mun ward St Pauls). All born in Birmingham. 1871 census: Sarah (73, widow, domestic duties) and a boarder are living at 10 Carver St. Born in Birmingham. At 1 back of 10 Carver St lives another Handy family: Benjamin (52, painter and paper hanger), Emily (49, pressworker), George M (22, painter), Thomas (20, silver polisher), Elizabeth (18, pressworker), all born in Birmingham. [Benjamin is probably the son of Thomas, see 1841 census.] 1861 census: Thomas (62, house painter), Sarah (63), Harriet (17, granddaughter, servant), Drousilla Strain (4, granddaughter, scholar) and a lodger (Jane Cullan, 62, widow, laundress) were at 10 Court Carver St, Birmingham (mun ward All Saints). Thomas was born in Warwick, the rest of the family in Birmingham. NB Drusilla Strain was also recorded as being present at 43 Carver St (Joseph Strain's household), so she must have taken a walk on census day. 1851 census: Thomas (52, painter and glazier), Sarah (53), 'Hariet' (25, married), Joseph Strain (28, married, baker) and Harriet (7, gdaughter of Thomas) were at 10 Carver St. All born Birmingham except Thomas (Warwick), Joseph (Alcester). 1841 census: Thomas (40), Sarah (40), Benjamin (20, jeweller), Thomas (15, 'Ap') were at Pope St, Birmingham. All were born in same county.

• William Came, agricultural labourer (b Huntspill ~ 1791) = Sarah xxxx (b Chilton Polden ~ 1796), children:
  • Edwin (1820 - ) = Ann Maria Chenoweth
  • John (1821 - ) = Sarah Tucker
  • Sophia (1823 - ) = John Croker, Chris Bennet's great great grandparents (see below)
  • Job (1825 - 1902) = Mary Ann Richards
  • Ann (1827 - 1827)
  • Sarah (1827 - 1827)
  • David (1828 - ) = Ann Vernon Tidball
  • Caroline (1831 - ) = xxxx
  • Charles (1834 - ), see above

  Evidence that William = Sarah are the parents of our ancestor Charles: Charles was born in Huntspill ~ 1834, matching the Charles Came in the 1841 census. Came is a rare name outside the Huntspill area, and in 1801 there was only one Came household in Huntspill (census found online). Verdict: conclusive. 1871 census: No entry for William. 1861 census: William (73, general labourer), Sarah (66, seamstress) were at Sloway? Lane, Huntspill, Somerset. William born in Huntspill, Sarah in Chilton Polden, both in Somerset. 1851 census: William (63, farm labourer), Sarah (55, tailoress), David (23, farm labourer) were at How Way, Huntspill. William and David were born in Huntspill, Sarah in Chilton. Other Came families on same census page: George (61), Elizabeth (59); James (67), Betsey (71); John(30), Sarah (42), Jane (2), John (11 months). 1841 census: William (50, ag lab), Sarah (45), Sophia (15), Edwin (20, ag lab), David (13), Charles (7) were in Huntspill (no street address). All born in same county. There are 3 more Came families on the same census page. Parish records: Belinda confirmed this through the parish records. Public tree on ancestry.co.uk: Chris Bennet's tree (4030 people) gives the names of Charles' parents and siblings.

• Joseph Southall, glass-blower (b Dudley ~ 1809, d Aston 1871 q4), = (Edgbaston, 27 May 1830) Maria Corbett (b Bracknell ~ 1808, d Aston 1872 q1), children:
  • John (b ~ 1831, glass blower)
  • Joseph (b ~ 1833, die sinker) = Ann E. (b ~ 1831), children:
    • Clara (b ~ 1862)
    • Joseph (b ~ 1864)
    • John Henry (b ~ 1866)
    • Ellen Maria (b ~ 1870)
  • Eliza (b ~ 1836)
  • Thomas (b ~ 1838, glass blower) = Caroline (b ~ 1848), children:
    • Caroline (b ~ 1867, clerk)
    • Amelia (b ~ 1871, jewellers finisher)
    • Maria E (b ~ 1873, gold and silver bead maker)
    • George (b ~ 1876, ginger beer bottler)
    • Ellen (b ~ 1879)
    • William H (b ~ 1880)
    • Frank (b ~ 1882)
    • Harry H (b ~ 1884)
  • Emily (b ~ 1842) (see above)
  • Amelia
  
  

  Evidence that Joseph = Maria are the parents of our ancestor Emily: Emily's 1841 birth certificate names her parents as Joseph Southall (glassblower) and Maria Corbett, and gives her address as 18 Eyres St, matching the information in the 1841 and 1851 censuses. Verdict: conclusive. 1891 census: Thomas (53), Caroline (43), Caroline (24), Amelia (20), Maria E (18), George (15), Ellen (12), William H (11), Frank (9) and Harry H (7) were living at 1 New Spring St, All Saints (professions as noted above). 1881 census: No entries for Joseph or Maria. 1871 census: Joseph (62, retired glass blower), Maria (63), Amelia (22), Maria (20) were at Ylav?? door, Pollene? Hill, Aston Manor. The previous entry in the census is for the household of Joseph (b ~ 1833), presumed to be the son. The census information for his wife and children have been entered above. Joseph was born in Dudley, Worcs, Maria in Bracknell, Berks, and Amelia and Maria in Birmingham. 1861 census: Joseph (52, retail mercer), Maria (53) and Amelia (12, scholar) were at Lidge? Row, Birmingham. Places of birth as in 1871 census. 1851 census: Joseph (42, glass blower), Maria (43), John (20, glass blower), Joseph (18, die sinker), Eliza (15), Thomas (13, glass blower), Emily (9, scholar), Amelia (2), Maria (5 months), were living at Eyre St, Birmingham. All born Birmingham except Joseph (Dudley) and Maria (Brockness?, Berks) [poss. consistent with Bracknell]. 1841 census: Joseph (30, glassblower), Maria (30), John (10), Joseph (9), Eliza (5), Thomas (3) and Emily (2 weeks) were at Eyre St, Birmingham. Joseph and Maria were not born in this county. The previous entry is also for a Southall family: John (50, glass blower) and Fanny (50). 1847 ratebook: 17 Eyre St (and 18, but no other house) are property of Fanny? Southall. 1840 ratebook: 17 belongs to John, 18 to Joseph, so John is probably Joseph's father. 1836 ratebook: 17? is the property of John Southall.

• xxxx Robinson = xxxx
  

  Evidence:

• Edwin Whitehouse (b Birmingham ~ 1817) = Hannah Bozard (or Bosward) (b Bidford 1818), children:
  • George Edwin (~ 1837 - )
  • Emily Mary (~ 1839 - )
  • Mary (~ 1844 - ) (see above)
  
  

  Evidence that Edwin = Hannah are the parents of our ancestor Mary: Ray Lambourn's document mentions Mary (1843 - ) and siblings Liza, Emma, Nell, Tom, and mentions a marriage to a Jack Andrews. The names Mary, Emma, Thomas and Andrews match the information given in the 1841-61 censuses. Several public family trees give parents Edwin = Hannah (b Bidford 1818) as the parents of these children. Verdict: conclusive for Hannah, very probable for Edwin (supporting documentation for the public trees needed). 1861 census: John Andrews (37, nail caster), Hannah Andrews (43, nail caster) [assumed formerly Whitehouse], Thomas Andrews (11, brass founder), William Andrews (9, umbrella maker), John Andrews (7, scholar), Lisa Andrews (3, scholar), George Whitehouse (23, bellows maker), Emma Whitehouse (22, box maker), Mary Whitehouse (17, house servant) and Mary Stevens (76, house servant) were at No. 1 house back ct, 6 Howard Place [close to current Hill St, near New Street Station], eccl. parish St Jude. All were born in Birmingham, apart from Mary (b Bidford). 1851 census: Anna (34, head of family, laundress), and children George Edwin (13, bellows maker), Emily Mary (11, scholar), Mary (7, scholar), Thomas (10 mo.) and John Andrews (25, lodger, nail-caster) were living at Court 6, House 9 Old Inkleys (eccl. district St Jude). All had surname 'Whitehouse' apart from John Andrews. All were born in Birmingham, apart from Anna ('Bilford', probably Bidford). 1841 census: Anna Whitehouse (35 or 25, laundress), George (3) and Emma (2) were at Court 3, Brewer St, Bordesley, Birmingham. All were born in the same county. [The mis-transcription of 25 for 35 results in Anna's birth date being recorded in the online 1841 census as ~ 1806 instead of ~ 1816.] The 1841 England census records Bozards in 3 households, one being in Warks: Ellen (20), living with ~ 8 unrelated individuals in the household of a 55-year-old publican at 20 Bread? St (St Paul). Profession 'J.F.'??. There are Boswards in several households, including 4 in Warks, all in Bidford: Benjamin, labourer (40) = Ann (45), children Ruth (5), Eliza (2) Job, agricultural labourer (55) = Hannah (30), children Thomas (12), William (9), Henry (5) John, labourer (20), living with a George Taylor Sarah, no profession given (63) Hannah's parents (and maybe Ellen's) may be one of the above couples. Family knowledge: Ray Lambourn's document 'The Robinson family' opens with a line 'c 1843 Mary Whitehouse b. (sister of Liza, Emma, Nell, Tom m. [space] Andrews, Jack...' Eldred/Tebbitt public tree on ancestry.co.uk: States that Edwin was b 2/3/817, married (21/5/1837, Harborne) Hanna Bozard (b 1818 Bidford), children George Edwin (b 20/11/1837, m Emma Madely), Emily Mary (b ~ 1840), Mary (b 1844), Thomas (b 12/1849). Morrall public tree on ancestry.co.uk: States that Hannah Bozard re-married, to John Andrews (1823 - ), and that they had children Thomas, William, John and Lisa. Places today: The Inkleys was an area to the west of New Street station, bounded by the current Hill St, Navigation St, Suffolk St, Queensway and Smallbrook Queensway. The properties were slum dwellings, demolished 1881, replaced by John Bright St.

• Henry York, colliery deputy (b Bilston, ~ 1823) = Frances Powis (b Bilston, ~ 1826), children:
  • Eliza (~ 1846 - )
  • Joseph (~ 1847 - )
  • John (~ 1849 - ) (see above)
  • Samuel (~ 1852 - )
  • Henry (~ 1855 - )
  • Richard (~ 1857 - )
  • George (~ 1859 - )
  • Frances (~ 1862 - )
  • Thomas, train driver (~ 1866 - ), lived Smethwick, 3 children

  Evidence that Henry = Frances are the parents of our ancestor John: John was b in Bloxwich ~ 1850, which matches the information in the 1851 and 1871 censuses; he's an iron-worker, consistent with the information in the 1871 census. Verdict: conclusive. 1891 census: No entries for Henry or Frances. 1881 census: Henry (58, coal miner), Frances (54), Frances (19, dress maker), James (17, iron worker) and Thomas (15, iron worker) were at 117 Bloxwich Rd, Walsall Foreign, Walsall. Henry and Frances were born in Bilston, Staffs, the children in Bloxwich, Staffs. 1871 census: Henry (48, colliery deput), Frances (45), John (21, forgeman iron?), Samuel (19, forgeman iron?), Henry (16, forgeman iron?), George (12, forgeman iron?), Frances (9) and Thomas (5), were living at 20 Pratts Bridge, Walsall Foreign, Walsall. All the children were born in Bloxwich, and the parents as given in 1881. 1861 census: Henry (38, coal miner), Frances (34), Joseph (13, coal miner), Samuel (9, scholar), Henry (6, scholar), Richard (4, scholar), George (2) were at Walsall Road, Walsall Foreign. The parents were born in Bilston, Joseph in Sedgly, and the other children in Bloxwich, all in Staffs. 1851 census: Henry (28, ironstone miner), Fanny (25) [presumably Frances], Eliza (5, scholar), Joseph (4, scholar), John (2) were at Turnpike Rd, Bloxwich, Walsall Foreign. Henry and Fanny were b in Bilston, Eliza and Joseph in Sedgly, and John in Bloxwich. 1841 census: John (20, miner), Emma (20), Henry (20, miner), Ann (10), Henry (18 months) were at Monmoove? Green, Wolverhampton. All born in this county. Family knowledge: The additional information about Thomas York (1866 - ) is from Ruby (1985). ancestry.co.uk: The surname of Frances, and all the information about her parents, and about the parents, siblings and half-siblings of Henry, is taken from public member tree butlerdot5 (94 people).

• William Fisher (b Dudley, ~ 1817, labourer) = Ann xxxx (b Walsall, ~ 1822), children:
  • Emma (~ 1845 - )
  • William (~ 1847 - )
  • Joseph (~ 1848 - )
  • Richard (~ 1850 - )
  • Comfort (~ 1856 - ) (see above)
  • Thomas? (~ 1857 - )
  • son (~ 1859 - )
  • ? (~ 1860 - )
  
  

  Evidence that William = Ann are the parents of our ancestor Comfort: Comfort was b ~ 1856 in Darlaston, matching the information in the 1861 and 1871 censuses (and Comfort is an unusual name). Verdict: conclusive. 1881 census: No entry for William. There's an Ann Fisher (62, widow) with a lodger at 12 side of Spring Row, Handsworth. Born Walsall, Staffs. 1871 census: William (54, labourer), Ann (49), Comfort (15), illegible daughter (14), Thomas (13), son (12), were living at 16 Bloxwich Rd, Foreign of Walsall, Walsall. William and Ann were born in Dudley and Walsall respectively. The older 2 children were born in Darlaston, the younger 1861 census: William (45, labourer), Ann (41), Emma (16), William (14, furnace boy), Joseph (13), Richard (11, scholar), Comfort (5, scholar), Jamar? (4), Stiner (2) and Albert (1) were at 31 Old Birchills. William was born in Dudley, Worcs, the rest of the family in Staffs: Ann, Stiner? and Albert in Walsall, the other children in Darlaston. 1851 census: William (34, furnaceman), Ann (29), Emma (6), William (4), Irsth? (3), Richard (11 months) were at ??? All the children were born in Darlaston, the parents as given above.